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    Posted: Oct/29/2009 at 11:29am
Hey ERRbody. A friend took me boarding at Mt. Charleston, Las Vegas at the very end of the season last year. I went down the bunny slope twice, then got injured, however, I'm now addicted. This will be my first actual season. Any advice on what type of board/clothes (gear as you all call it?) Also, I moved to SoCal so where are the best places to go.
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  Quote raymoyers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/29/2009 at 11:38am
Buy the most expensive board and clothes (gear) you can find right away.  According to Matt's research at snowkarma.com, that is the fastest way to becoming a pro at snowboarding. LOL

Seriously though, we would need to know some more info to make a worthwhile suggestion for you.  Height, weight, gender (too lazy to check your profile).  Also, do you plan on riding freestyle, all mountain, park?  The more info we have to work with the better the suggestions you'll get.


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  Quote Dooley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/29/2009 at 11:50am
can i know how you got injured going down the bunny slope?  Confused Ouch
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  Quote Yen10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/29/2009 at 11:51am
Yea...I don't know what most of that means. I am a 5'2" female, 115 lbs. I've only ever ridden a bunny slope, so I am sure there is a more advanced slope that I'd eventually like to make it down. I'd like to try it all.
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  Quote ForeRL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/29/2009 at 1:19pm
Hit up Sierra Snowboard's sale items on last years models

I'm not an expert on sizing but for your height and weight I'm guessing a 143-145

But ask a staff member to be sure on sizing 

Boots are the most important gear.  I suggest going to a shop and get fitted, you want the tips of your toe to brush the front of the boot

I would rather spend a good deal of money on boots because they make a big difference

Progression on a snowboard is fast compared to skiis so I wouldn't get the cheapest thing possible, I would buy something that will last the next few seasons

As for clothes, I wouldn't get anything less than 10,000mm waterproofing, it usually says on the specs part
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  Quote g3ck0 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/29/2009 at 1:56pm
Originally posted by Dooley

can i know how you got injured going down the bunny slope?  Confused Ouch


I would say it doesn't take much to sprain your wrist, for example.
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  Quote Piranha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/29/2009 at 2:27pm
don't know how you got addicted to snowboarding after 2 runs on a bunny slope and an injury.

I only got addicted after a couple of days at a premium resort (heavenly/tahoe).  As conceited as it sounds, even by the end of that first day, I was turning consistently, without falls, and I knew then I had the "talent" to be a decent and stylish snowboarder. 

that first season, I was riding rental equipment and hand-me-downs like a scotchguarded raincoat/windbreaker over a fleece and some 80s ski gloves.  The only thing I felt I had no choice but to buy was a pair of water resistant/moisture wicking snowboarding pants (you can't skimp too much here...unless you don't mind having a soggy, cold butt and legs all day).

unless you have the time and money to trek up to mammoth regularly, you're gonna be stuck with the san brenadino resorts.  They're probably better than the LV resort, but still relatively snow starved...yet still expensive and crowded.  Depending on your budget, you might want to save some of your gear expense for transportation and lift tickets.  Maybe, look for and try some used stuff for a little while(...?)
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  Quote BunnySloper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/29/2009 at 2:38pm

It's tough to say what you should buy as far as gears when you have no preference. Here's my suggestion:

Board:
Determine your style: Park (Rails, Jibs), All-Mountain (Bascially anything you come across going down the slope), Freeride (Just carving down the mountain)
 
Determine your size: Consult with a staff member. The size of the board is mostly determined by your weight.
 
Do your research: Start looking at different boards (I would recommend intermediate boards for room to progress) and read the reviews given by other shoppers who had used the same board. One can get pretty technical with a snowboard i.e talking about flex, pop, camber versus rocker....etc. So do your research and narrow it down so when you ask for advice on the forum, other members can really give worthwhile input.
 
Boots:
Determine your size: Go into your local store and get fitted to determine your size for snowboard boots. My girlfriend is a size 6 in normal shoes and she's wearing a pair of 7.5 Burton Lodi, that she saids feels right. So get fitted. You don't have to buy it at the store, just remember the brand and the model and search for it on here in the same size. Determine you boot size before you buy your bindings.
 
Determine your style: Again, if you know what kind of riding you are going to do, it'll help the staff/other forum member determine what kind of equipment you should get, snowboarding is a little more technical than just strapping into a board and start sliding. Boots can be flexy or stiff depending on what you want to do.
 
Bindings:
Determine your sizes: Get something with a range that will fit your boots.
 
Determine your style: Once again, depending on what kind of riding you want to do, there are binding built to accomodate that.
 
Note: Although boards, boots and bindings do have specific style of riding that they are built for, you can ride a park board all-mountain and vice versa, it really comes down to rider's skills, riding the correct board would just make it easier to do what you want to do with it.
 
Clothing :
There are two things you want to pay attentiton to, Waterproof rating and Breathability. I would also reccommend at least 10,000MM for waterproofing. Get a set of base layers for those cold days.
 
I would also recommend protective gears...i.e wrist guard, kneepad (especially for practicing toe-side). Nothings sucks more being injured mid-season.
 
Goodluck and have Fun!
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Yen10, props to you for making it through your injury and still getting hooked on the sport. No fear!

As ForeRL stated, the best thing for you to do is to look at least season's stuff to see what is left in your size. Boots are definitely the most important! So spend as much as you can for the perfect boots for your foot. For that you'll obviously need to hit up a store to try them on. All boots fit differently. Remember to bring along snowboarding socks to try them on with to get the right fit. Walk, run around in them for a good 10 - 15 min.

Given your weight, I think you can actually down size a bit further from the recommended 143 - 145. I took a quick look at Sierra's stock and the Ride Solace (138) would be a terrific starter board for you: http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/Ride-Solace-Womens-Snowboards.asp If you want to get a board in the low 140's there are a ton of options: http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/snowboarding/Sales/size_140-144/Womens/snowboards_0.asp

For goggles, I'd do the same as with the boots, you need to try them on. Do no buy goggles without trying them on. Make sure there are no gaps near your nose area / cheeks.

As for the rest of the equipment, just pick up whatever Sierra has left. There's a ton of bindings and outerwear available. If you are prone to injury, definitely get some protective gear. I make all my friends ride with helmets, I've seen the dumbest head injuries, on the bunny slopes no less. I have week wrists that I've sprained / jammed more times than I can remember so I always rock wrist guards. And I had one really bad (actually) two bad falls on my tailbone before so buttpads were also a big part of my gear for me.
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  Quote Piranha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Oct/29/2009 at 2:59pm
...oh, and I was wearing wraparound sunglasses with a tether that first year...the wind kinda gets in and they fall off when you wipe, but I managed.   





Boots (if not renting), water resistant pants and goggles...then the rest.
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All great suggestions above.

My recommendation is to continue to go a couple 2 or 3 more times with rental boards before purchasing your own gear. As you mentioned you went at the end of last season. Go again to make sure you're still "hooked". Also determining the style you like would be first step in terms of narrowing down your board selection.

First and foremost...take a class! I always recommend that. The 3 hr class will give you a great foundation in which to start from.

All others have hit the most important pointers. Also keep in mind your boots will be your most important gear. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS try on the boots before buying. Never buy blindly online. Boots can make you immediately hate snowboarding if completely fitted incorrectly. Any reputable shop will be able to help you fit them. Once you find the perfect pair come on Sierra Snowboard and buy 'em ;)

Best of luck this season and have a blast!!

In regards to So*Cal mountains you have the typical:
Snow Summit, Bear Mtn, Mt High, Mammoth.

I'm typically at Mt High 1 to 2x a week for the night boarding sessions. I hit Snow Summit on the weekends or every other weekend. Mammoth is usually about 4x a season. On top of that I hit Tahoe, Colorado, and Utah. :) :) :)
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  Quote ippollite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/02/2009 at 3:37am
haha, i doubt despite what you may think, youll actually be specialising for a good couple of seasosn yet. Hell, you probably wont even touch the park for your first year or so unless youre a headcase (unles its like that super baby park at hakuba where none of the badass kids are watching and hating your very presence every time you fall off a rail and hold up the queue).

Get yourself a nice softish board, (speed aint exactly your priority nor is powder), and learn to control the board. DEFINITELY buy your own, because switching from board to board every week means youre spending an inordinate amount of your day getting comfortable with the size or the stance setting, or the width or the flex. Somethig will be annoying your guaranteed. With your own board youll find you progress a lot faster because aftrer your first two or three runs youll have a real feel for it.

Id definitely recommend you look fo ra nice 2007/8 board (theyll be ridiculously low price) and one that fits your size (which im too lazy to look at), youre really looking at a board that will carry you through your next couple of seasons. And unless you live near the snow, that will consist of really bringing around your technique and dealing with the terrain. You wont really be specialising, so as your first board, really just look for something thatll rock the whole mountain, but isnt a door with a base coat.

Soft and flexy is fun, you lose out on speed and nice buig carving but youll find the whole mountain is your oyster, and if you rock something with a bit of rocker, well youll even cover the nasty days.

My advice: Go buy a bataleon evil twin :) Ive seen a few of them at basement prices form last year and the year before, and if i wanted something that soft (though not as noodly as a fun.kink), id definitely be all over them. :) They seem nice decks, plus TBT is definitely something that sounds like itll carry you through a few seasons. Itll cover all your wants and needs for your experience level and because theyve been doing it a few years it doesnt restrict you to just this years range (as a lot of decks seem to do - boo! the impossible to find never summer evo-r 2009):)

Ah what do i know anyway, im only a couple of years ahead of you, and thats frankly nothing in the cosmic scheme of things. I definitely second the whole lesson thing. Doing it on my own took me nearly three sessions to link a turn, people doing it in a morning session because they took lessons pissed me off :) Youll definitely feel the difference!
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  Quote umsm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/03/2009 at 10:33am
I suggest that you purchase one of the cheapest snowboards/bindings you find here on sierra's sale section.

Get fitted for the boots at a local shop because they are hard to size online.

A friend of mine will start snowboarding this year, and he purchased the cheapest palmer on the site for $110. It's about 10 times better than anything you rent at most places.
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Maybe you should pick up a helmet?
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  Quote Piranha Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov/07/2009 at 8:41am
good post, ippollite...could use some editing (paragraphs)

Board acclimation is underrated...and, from my experience, rentals are thrashed 5 to 10 year old tech

any board that's going to keep you from digging the tips ("catching an edge") is going to diminish your chances of getting injured
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