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spenser
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Topic: gyrator review/first impressionsPosted: Feb/27/2009 at 5:40pm |
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only one day on it so far but here you go.
09 gyrator 158...... as far as rocker boards go, i have the hero, horrorscope, and banana to compare to. hororrscope is obviously a super soft short twin, so we wont really go there. flex - pretty medium. not stiff, not soft. hero is softer.. banana might be a LITTLE soffter. nose is more flexible. feels good, i like it. ride - took a run or two to adjust to the way it likes to turn. felt like it slightly had a mind of its own at first, but then i got used to it and thats not the case anymore. i would say its a solid, damp ride. something about honeycomb dampening material in the core? i banged some hard landings and it felt almost as if it were cushy. anyway, dampness, or whatever you want to call it, was something i noticed. "more damp" than my hero, maybe even my fish. smooth turns after i adjusted.. i like it. solid charging through/over chop. good in pow obviously, for a twin-ish board. rides switch less naturally than a true twin but thats not to say it was bad, just not the same as a true twin. pop? - i seem to be able to adjust to any board and the way they pop.. this one feels springy.. all good.. whatever.. blah blah blah. edge hold. stiffer lengthwise than my hero, but more so torsionally. edge hold was noticeably increased, but it still has the looser rocker feel. i think its just right for me. good stuff. base - i gave it a quick hotwax last night. rode with an 09 jussi that is waxed regularly, and a couple others. i seemed to be fastest. haden said at one point "k2 bases are fast." theres one long flat spot that you have to bomb to make it through, when you go further east into the gullies we were riding all day, and i made it the furthest/fastest. i didnt actually feel like i was going any faster than usual, but out of our group today, i was the fastest. overall i like this more than my hero. its definitely more directional, but i would still call it twin-ish or twin-like as far as the shape goes. i love the shape of the nose and tail. also, noticeably more rocker on the nose, but still rocker on the tail.. tail rocker is at least as much as capitas FK, probably just barely more, and definitely more than the hero, and more than the banana. |
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Timmay_650
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Posted: Feb/27/2009 at 6:15pm |
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Good review! I always enjoy them Spenser.
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BRUIZZA
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Posted: Feb/27/2009 at 6:23pm |
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Hmm do you think after one day you got enough runs/time on it to say you like it more than your hero. you raved about the hero. I LOVE my hero but I am looking forward to trying out my fix next weekend. |
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spenser
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Posted: Feb/27/2009 at 6:55pm |
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i rode it all day on everything i normally ride. at first i was somewhat meh about it, but after a few runs and getting the feel for it, i definitely like the feel more. not that i dont like my hero.
either way, i seem to adapt to different boards fast. i can go between my fish and horrorscope back to back and instantly adjust. but of course, thats why "first impressions" was included in the title. i suppose i could post updates if i discover anything new, good or bad. but so far, its only positives. im stoked. |
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spenser
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Posted: Feb/27/2009 at 7:10pm |
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also - this wasnt really to say its a better board. because thats all subjective.. some wouldnt like it, some would.. same on the hero, or anything else. it was really just to say what i experienced with it, but the ride also happened to be more to my liking. its not an aggressive board, but its stiffer torsionally, and a little lengthwise, which is what i was looking for.. again, not that my hero didnt perform great for me. and in some situations, id probably still prefer a hero. but probably more in a non-serious way (not that snowboarding is ever REALLY serious). id probably want the 55 for that. soft groomers and side hits probably. or maybe a 52 for a jibber.
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goride
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Posted: Feb/27/2009 at 10:39pm |
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hows the float compared to the fish?
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spenser
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Posted: Feb/27/2009 at 11:11pm |
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not comparable. i feel like the pow rocker term throws people off. its really not a pow board for real.. a pow board (by my definition) is at least tapered.
but yeah.. its nothing like a fish. but as far as a freestyle/twin-like/ish board goes, its rad. i like it a lot. i didnt ride any serious pow, just moderate stuff, cause it hasnt snowed a bunch for a while. but what i did ride, it seemed to do just fine, at LEAST as good as my hero, but i would say better. i have about half an inch, maybe 3/4 inch more nose than my hero, and theres more rocker on the nose of the gyrator than the tail. and compared to camber, its obviously way better. i also think this style of rocker works better in pow.. flat in the middle with the rocker starting just past the inserts, as opposed to having one rocker point in the middle. and regardless of that, the rocker is definitely more intense than my hero. i think my favorite new feel im getting from this is the extra stiffness, mainly torsionally. and it feels like it powers through stuff a bit better.. i feel more comfortable on it i guess, charging fast on chopped up pow and uneven stuff, not that i felt uncomfortable on my hero. i would say if you wanted to stay on a freestyle board AND have the best pow float, without additional setback, this would be a good one to consider. im really stoked on it.. but im usually stoked on any board i get cause ive figured out what works best for me. ill keep you guys updated i guess, it doesnt really seem like many people have gyrators, and those who do dont seem to be very vocal about it. |
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Aus_Boarder
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Posted: Feb/28/2009 at 12:09am |
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Great review Spenser.
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/01/2009 at 10:25pm |
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not a whole lot to elaborate on, think of it as further confirmation of my stoke on this board.
felt even better today. id say i got used to it within the first 2-3 runs on friday, but today it was like we were best friends. |
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danemeyer20
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 4:57am |
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thanks for the heads up, i might look into this
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ANGRY AGENT
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 9:13am |
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wow with the way you liked your Hero I didn't think you would like anything else more. See how much mor you like it after a couple more days.
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 9:17am |
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im not very picky really, i can adapt to pretty much any board and enjoy it as long as it generally fits my preferences and isnt junky. definitely enjoyed my hero a lot, and judging by the couple of days on this one, im quite stoked. riding it again starting today in about an hour, woooooo
also, i think a lot of my excitement about the hero was because it was the first rocker board id ridden and it was a revolution under my feet. thats not to say i wouldnt like it if i had been on rocker before, but still i still want to spend more time on a btx board.. ill probably borrow pats banana again. |
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ANGRY AGENT
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 9:26am |
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You're not going to buy a mullet? Pretty hard to get a hold of one right now for me at least.
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 9:29am |
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nah, the fish is doing great, but i still definitely want to try a mullet for sure. im pretty sure no one has one around here though, especially one new enough to be BTX.
but who knows, i might get one for next season. ive ridden btx and taper before so i can guess how this will be, and im sure itll be rad just like everything else, haha. ill adapt. |
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rook
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 11:09am |
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thanks Spenser good to know.... Add K2 on my next years Rocker wish list.
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 11:51am |
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spenser,
Have you tried the Signal Park rocker? I just got one on Thursday and rode it for a couple hours on Friday and a couple runs on Sunday before tweaking the shat out of my thumb... It was SOOOO fun! I have never had more confidence in busting 180s at speed, spinning around on the base at speed and just being a nut. The board is super light and flexy and the rocker is so much it looks stupid - but it works.... Yes it is less stable since you are effectively riding a super short board until you lay it over into a turn. It was even working on an icy "snake run" through the trees (think of a tight mini half pipe snaking through the forest about 300' long). I know some folks love it or hate it, but if you don't mind a loose board in exchange for not catching edge, it kicks butt. I'll post a review after I ride it some more.
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ridesnowboarder
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 12:15pm |
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Good review
It seems like a pretty solid board |
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 5:31pm |
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havent ridden the park rocker. quite different than the gyrator.. park rocker would be more like a horrorscope for sure, which i own. fun, but definitely a supernoodle that i almost never ride.
more on the k2 - day three, snowed overnight and i got to ride some legit pow on the rough steep stuff that i love, finally. LOVE THIS BOARD. im definitely more comfortable charging on it than my hero. fast, stable, "floaty," blah blah blah. the dampening in the core and the extra stiffness in the nose and tail from the carbon is awesome. it just does noticably better charging gnarlyness, and is still fun and playful. so glad i picked it up. ps - not knocking the hero, at all. |
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goride
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 6:17pm |
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i think im gonna pick up a fish for pow days for mobbing through the trees and pow stashes. I was interested in the gyrator but i want max float and response in quick turns. I might hold out for the 2010 malolo with s-rocker though or try to find a snow mullet. |
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 6:24pm |
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taper is definitely different. rocker is just a way to get twins or twin-ish boards to work in pow a lot better, but its not a replacement for taper.
fish is rad. that big fat nose will plow over anything.. the only thing i feel i lack sometimes is enough tail to really do a powerful slash. its more under the back foot since theres barely any tail, and its fine, but i like when i can ride on the length of the tail in a slash. malolo with s-rocker will be amazing, i might prefer that over a fish because of the tail thing. or a piranha, just cause its 25mm taper instead of 20. small, but whatever. i may sell my fish and get the charlie slasher. who knows. the more i think about it, the more i realize how rare it is that a fish is truly warranted here. heli, sure, cause its totally untracked. but eaglecrest gets tracked out so fast that it chops it down. its not that i dont love my fish, but... yeah. |
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 6:48pm |
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wow, it sounds... overhyped worst board ever :D
im gonna hafta try 1 asap, all my friends need to buy 1 rite now.
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 6:50pm |
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poooop, i have a chipped part on the tail on the topsheet. thankfully theres no wood exposed.. i dont think theres even wood in the very tips, theyre so thin, its weird.
epoxy coming soon. |
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 6:58pm |
most companies taper the cores super thin in the tip/tail so it wouldn't suprise me if a small chip didn't expose any wood. |
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spenser
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 7:00pm |
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i know thats normal, but this is extra thin. the sidewalls also end early, i dont get that. neither of these things have affected performance though, its just a difference i noticed when i opened the box.
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dasmitty11
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 7:21pm |
so are you saying your sidewall ends before the contact points and your tip/tail starts early? |
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Posted: Mar/02/2009 at 7:49pm |
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the sidewall ends before the tip/tail curve starts, so sure, contact points.. it turns into something thats almost like cap construction, but not really. hard to explain, its weird. ive never seen it before.
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Posted: Mar/22/2009 at 9:32pm |
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Thanks for the review....helped alot.
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